January 15, 2008...12:03 pm

Hokkaido Milky Loaf Bread (北海道牛奶土司)

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For me, making breads in a bread machine has almost always been successful because the temperature for bread to rise is controlled. However, a bread baked in the bread machine is usually heavy and not soft enough. So, I was hunting for a good bread recipe.

After reading a post on Hokkaido Bread, I was determined to try out the recipe. In the article, the author has a photo of the bread that is fluffy and soft.

The first time I tried out the Hokkaido bread recipe, it did not turn out well for me. The dough was too watery, almost like a batter. After a long wait for the watery dough to rise, I realized that it may not rise. I thought perhaps the cold milk, cold whipping cream, and cold butter did not encourage the yeast to proof. I felt despair and did not have the patience to diagnose the problem.

Recently, while I was reviewing my blog, looking at the recipes that I would like to try, I decided to give Hokkaido Milky Loaf Bread another try.

Florence’s recipe called for 3g of salt and 3g of dry yeast, these can be converted to slightly less than 1 tsp since 5g is 1 tsp. The recipe only uses egg white. However, don’t try to use the left-over egg yolk to glaze the top of the bread or you will have a hard crust.

In addition to Florence’s recipe, I did the following:

1) heat the whipping cream and milk (regular 2% milk) slightly such that it is warm to touch, just like heating milk in baby’s bottle.

2) dissolve sugar in the milk and whipping cream mixture, add the yeast and wait for the yeast to proof.

After the yeast has “proofed”, I knew that the yeast was active and I felt a little more confident to proceed with the rest of the recipe.

3) following the recipe, the batter still looked watery. However, this time, I wasn’t scared. Slowly, I added more bread flour, a little sprinkle at a time, as the bread machine was turning. Once, I added too much flour and the dough was too dry. I realized it was too dry when I was kneading it after it had risen. Instead of throwing the dough away, I reset the bread machine, added a little water and restart the bread machine to mix the dough again.

4) After the dough has risen to almost double, I removed it from the bread machine and knead it by hand without any additional flour before forming it into two balls to go into the bread baking pan.

If you attempt any bread recipes and has failed in the past, I highly recommend that you read baking911. I am very excited about my accomplishment thus far. The bread is soft and does not smell yeasty.

Some other lessons that I learned from this experience are:

  1. the importance of two rises. I will let the bread machine do the kneading after the first rise before I shape the dough into the loaf pan for a second rise. A loaf that has risen too much dries out faster because of the extra air. It also has less flavor. On the flip side, if the dough has not risen enough, the gluten has not formed enough for the bread to expand, so the bread will be heavy.
  2. the importance of proper kneading. The rough surface with breaks will allow gases to escape and not achieve the proper fermentation.
  3. the importance of a perfect rise. Use a gentle finger touch test on the dough. If the impression made stays, the dough has doubled and is ready. If the indent quickly disappears, it needs a little more time. If the dough smells sour, it has over-risen.
  4. the importance of good temperature. Since soft bread recipes usually calls for baking in the oven (instead of the bread machine), I had to figure out the best way to ensure good rise for my dough. A good place for bread to rise is in an unheated closed-door oven, with a pan of boiling water below the shelf of the rising dough.

Other blogs with Hokkaido Milky Loaf Bread recipes are Angie’s Recipe, Happy Home Baking, and Cocoa.

My Portland blogger friend, Eliza also has a fluffy bread recipe, in a roll form, Virginia Light Roll recipe.

Have you baked Hokkaido Milky Loaf Bread or bread that are fluffy yet? Either baked in the oven or in the bread machine? Stay fluffy on the 2nd and/or 3rd day? Feel free to share with me your experiences.

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15 Comments

  • hey..u r back! its been awhile since i dropped by to see if you are up and running again..

    now dis white bread really reminds me that its been ages since i tried to cut carbs from my body..how i long for a nice thick slice of white bread with some strawberry jam… hmmm

  • hi Lee Ping! very nice to hear you’ve accomplished making Hokkaido bread. i love that bread too and i do knead breads using my bread machine. i usually bake in regular pan instead of in the bread machine.
    how’s life going with you? :)

  • Good to see you turn on the comments again. BTW, I found this on Argus’ post (Sept. 11,07). http://steamykitchen.com/blog/2007/09/10/no-knead-bread-revisited/

  • Oh, your bread looks so good that I want to sink my teeth into it!

  • Wowie, that’s fantastic, Mrs HBT! Thanks for your tips. Congratulations on your successful soft white bread. You motivate me to make bread from scratch again (I haven’t done it for a few months).

    (By the way, in relation to your teeth/gum-cleaning post, my brother who is a dentist has told me that patients, who probably neglect flossing, tend to get a lot of cavities between their molars in their forties.)

  • I have been wanting to try this recipe and now I have to, after looking at your lovely loaf of bread. :)

  • hey thanks for the recipe and the tips part. I have always want a bread recipe like this.

  • welcome back.. I had my first trial on hokkaido milk loaf 2 weeks ago with my bread machine.. it was wonderful.. And your loaf looks lovely.

  • Hi, I am trying the Hokkaido bread and when I converted the ingredients from metric to the English system (not really accurate due to humidity etc but I was trying to make it more convenient for future attempts)….I made the mistake of equating 540 gm of bread flour with only 2 cups (instead of 2 1/3 c). The resulting dough was still too ’soft’ ….I ended up adding more than 1/2 cup bread. After mixing and before proofing in the bread machine, does the dough look like the usual dough that you have left in the machine to proof or ’softer’ ? Do you recall how much flour (estimate) you had to sprinkle on when the dough is being mixed in the bread machine?

    Have you ever made the loaf bread with the taro swirl? It is readily available in Canada but I have never seen them in the US, even in CA or chinatown NY.

    I surfed the internet occasionally but only found your blog and Angie’s blog recently and am so excited as you both have the best Asian recipes, comments, tips …..in short, as the kids say…you both rock!

    Thanks!

  • Hey there, I can leave comments now! Great to be able to drop you a note. The loaf of bread looks lovely.

  • Hi LotsofCravings,

    First one to leave me comments. Thanks for your support. I have missed blogging. My mind is always filled with ideas. May the Lord grant me wisdom to manage my time and to balance between my hobby and my family life.

    As long as you eat moderately, you will stay slim. So, feel free to enjoy your favorite white bread with strawberry jam.

    Dear Eliza,
    As I mentioned to you on my email, my girls are sick. Well, my Little Dragon is still coughing. This reminded me of my own persistent cough last year. Not a pleasant memory. I pray that God will heal her soon.

    Dear Alice,
    My faithful blogger friend, thanks for your comments. I am happy that I turned on comments on this article. The comments I received here have been very encouraging. I am very tempted to try Miss Steamy Kitchen’s recipe.

    Dear Argus,
    You said, “You motivate me to make bread from scratch again.” Thanks for your encouragement. I needed to hear that.

    (…and thanks for reading my article on gum cleaning. Our dentist encourages our girls to floss regularly. I used to floss Little Dragon’s teeth when she was 5. It was our nightly Mommie and Daughter routine. These days, I spot check their gums. If their gums bleed, I know they have not been flossing!

    My sister who is also a dentist loves the floss tool that look like a toothbrush.)

    Dear EastMeetsWestKitchen,
    Please let me know how it work out for you. Thanks for coming by.

    Dear Teckiee,
    You are welcome. I remember growing up in Malaysia, we could get fresh bread conveniently at very little cost. A man on motorbike would go by our house honking and selling fresh hot breads. If that is still true, making breads in Malaysia is more for fun, and not for necessity. Your future hubby will be blessed with your incredible cooking spirit. Keep it up.

    Dear Cocoa,
    I added your article to my list of bloggers who have tried Hokkaido Bread. I noticed that the top of your loaf is lighter. You probably know this, to get it brown, you can apply a milk wash. Just brush a thin layer of milk on the top of your loaf before baking. However, I am not sure if you can do that in a bread machine.

    Perhaps one day, bread machine can come up with a baked loaf that is flat at the bottom. Currently, the baked bread has a whole because of the bread attachment at the bottom.

    Thanks for coming by.

    Hi Ssan,

    I shall attempt to answer your question. You asked:

    1) After mixing and before proofing in the bread machine, does the dough look like the usual dough that you have left in the machine to proof or ’softer’?

    Answer:
    I find the Hokkaido Bread dough much “softer” than regular bread dough.

    2) Do you recall how much flour (estimate) you had to sprinkle on when the dough is being mixed in the bread machine?

    Answer:
    You mentioned humidity in your comment. You are right. The amount of flour to add depend on the humidity. Since I used the recipe that has egg, the amount of extra flour used will depend on the egg as well. I tried the recipe with just egg white as recommended and tried it with the whole egg, yolk and all. So honestly, I can’t remember the amount of flour I had to sprinkle on the dough. However, I will share with you some tips from Baking911. You should sprinkle flour little by little until the dough:
    - feels coherent, soft and smooth, but not dry.
    - holds together in a nice ball and feels like “baby’s bottom”.
    - springs back when lightly pressed with two fingers.

    Additionally, I find Hokkaido bread dough more sticky or stretchy than my char siu bun doughs.

    3) Have you ever made the loaf bread with the taro swirl?

    Answer:
    I have not attempted loaf bread with taro swirl yet. I love loaf bread with taro swirl as well as red bean swirl. Not long ago, I learned pork floss swirl bread from our Pastor’s wife. The bread that we made was round and was cooked in a non-stick skillet, with a little olive oil at the bottom of the pan, instead of the oven.

    Are you referring to the taro swirl loaf bread that has taro paste swirl within the soft and fluffy bread? I found a link to this kind of taro swirl bread here.
    Their shop is in
    10961 N Wolfe Road
    Cupertino Village
    Cupertino, CA 95014
    (408) 865-6000

    You might already know this, Angie has the recipe for purple taro two tone bread.

    Thanks for your encouragement. I shall continue to share more “you rock” dishes.

    Dear WMW,
    My very loyal blogger friend, thanks for remembering me. I visit your blog when time permits and it continues to inspire me to take better photographs and cook more authentic foods.

  • Thanks, Lee Ping. My bread came out very moist but kind of coarse…I might have added too much flour both while the bread machine is mixing it and also after, when I was making them into small loaves. BUT this is the first time I ever found a recipe that gave me such soft, moist bread. Thank you! I will definitely try this recipe again. I did make two small breads – free form, rolling pepper jack cheese slices into the dough and my son liked them. He requests that I use the same dough to make him hot dog buns to bring to school for lunches this week.
    I did make two loaves of bread with taro in them. They did not taste like the sliced bread that I love from Canada (not Angie’s two tone bread) but I will keep trying. Basically, I cooked taro cubes with some sugar then mash them, also passed them thru a strainer (prob shd have used my food mill). Then I made the rolls like you did the bread with pork sung swirls.

    The CA bakery site you included above did not have taro bread picture. The taro swirl bread I love is like raisin-cinnamon bread but has sweetened taro in them (plenty of very fine lines.) I think ….next time I will fold the rolled out dough a few more times instead of just three folds (big group of taro).

    I will try your char-sui pao soon. Nice talking to you.

  • Lee, that loaf is so divine!..it looks so soft and tempting..

  • Happy Chinese New Year to you and your family!


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